Was reading net.games.rogue today, and:

From: dim@cbuxc.UUCP (Dennis McKiernan)
Subject: Author looking for feedback on The Iron Tower Trilogy.
Newsgroups: net.books,net.sf-lovers,net.games,net.games.frp,net.games.rogue,net.wanted

-- http://article.olduse.net/113@cbuxc.UUCP

Is posting this to the rogue newsgroup inspired, or almost some kind of proto-spam? You decide..

(BTW Dennis, I quite enjoyed your trilogy.)

Posted Mon Aug 11 00:48:02 2014

If RMS was reading oldusenet in the last 24 hours, as he fine-tuned the wording of his famous announcement, here are two things he would have seen:

Maryland software distribution

A Lisp system, including a windowing system.

This flexible package allows convenient management of multiple contexts on the screen and runs on ordinary character display terminals as well as bit-mapped displays.

For just $100, but check out the license:

In exchange for the Maryland software tape, I certify to the
following:

a.  I will not use any of the Maryland software distribution in a
    commercial product without obtaining permission from Maryland
    first.
b.  I will keep the Maryland copyright notices in the source code,
    and acknowledge the source of the software in any use I make of
    it.
c.  I will not redistribute this software to anyone without permission
    from Maryland first.
d.  I will keep Maryland informed of any bug fixes.
e.  I am the appropriate person at my site who can make guarantees a-d.

New Kernel!

No, it's not Linux. ;) But it is an improved Unix kernel for the PDP-11.

And so nine months ago we (oops, sorry, 'we' are Professor Robert Michael Owens, John Irwin, and David Eckhardt) set out to transform version 7 into something useable. To make a long story short, we think we've done so. So now we have considered trying to market/give-away our UNIX. Like 4.1, it would require a V7 license.

That's an existing AT&T Unix license, required to see the new kernel source code that these guys are otherwise mostly ready to give away to anyone with interest.


I'm surprised these popped up in just the past 24 hours. They are not the first such posts on Usenet of course. But the proprietary software is certianly coming thick and fast in the hours before RMS began to change everything!

I'm sure that, as RMS was reading Usenet (and Arpanet) before this, he saw much more than this. He'd have seen a trend toward free sharing of code, enabled on an unprecedented level by the new networks. And at the same time he'd have seen each site trying to piece together their own Unix from software they licenced and hints posted on the net. He'd have seen the hacker ethos exploding, at the same time that a public who had just recently been exposed to "hacking" in War Games started to think they were all criminals. He'd have seen so, so much potential, hobbled on technical and social and legal levels.

And more than anyone else, he did something about it. In 1 hour from now you can see what, in the net.unix-wizards newsgroup on nntp.olduse.net.

Update:

Posted Fri Sep 27 15:14:45 2013

A little grep has told me that RMS is going to announce something special on olduse.net in two weeks time, on 27 September 1983. Best not to speculate about the details, but this announcement will be something people are still talking about thirty years later. So it's an event you and your news reader won't want to miss.

I have set up an IRC channel #olduse.net on FreeNode, and we'll see who first spots the post!

Posted Fri Sep 13 23:21:41 2013
Joey smile

David suggests that smileys are pretty new.

Wow! The ":-)" notation was suggested just about three mionths ago, and I had thought that it was spreading SLOWLY. Just how fast is this network growing, anyway?

According to Paul, they're not so new.

As I recall, it was started last summer. Seems as though there was a whole list of 'um made then too . . .

      :-}     :-{     8-)     6-)     9-)     :-(

Interesting, I have not encountered the 6 and 9 variants on the modern net. But anyway, when was the first smiley posted to Usenet? It was first mentioned in a post from James Morris to the human-nets list, gatewayed from arpanet to usenet in November 1982.

Because you can't see the person who is sending you electronic
mail you are sometimes uncertain whether they are serious or
joking.  Recently, Scott Fahlman at CMU devised a scheme for
annotating one's messages to overcome this problem.  If you turn
your head sideways to look at the three characters :-) they look
sort of like a smiling face.  Thus, if someone sends you a
message that says "Have you stopped beating your wife?:-)" you
know they are joking.  If they say "I need to talk to you :-(",
be prepared for trouble.

Since Scott's original proposal, many further symbols have been
proposed here:

(:-) for messages dealing with bicycle helmets
@= for messages dealing with nuclear war
<:-) for dumb questions
oo for somebody's head-lights are on messages
o>-<|= for messages of interest to women
~= a candle, to annotate flaming messages

So you see, bit-map displays are really quite unnecessary :->

(This page has the details of Scott Fahlman's original post, which was not made to Usenet but to a BBS, and the digital archeology involved in retrieving it from tape in 2002.)

Soon after that post, a smiley was used in a direct post to usenet by John Woods:

Mental phenomena are easy to demonstrate, to wit: Place your phone in the middle of your desk. Think about your phone for a while. Eventually, it will ring. See how easy it is? While it is ringing, think about making it stop, and soon it will.

:-)

And how fast did the smiley spread from this first introduction on Usenet? Here's a rough histrogram, although of course Usenet traffic levels are also generally increasing in this period.

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Posted Sun Jul 7 20:16:17 2013

It's summer movie season, and here's another review for a movie you might recognise. But while you probably see this movie in a pretty good light, as an influential and better than average depiction of computer hacking .. the Flaming review of Wargames has a different take:

In my humble opinion, the film "Wargames" is a good example of the sort of "pseudo-technical" crap that gives people unrealistically negative views of computers and the people who work with them.

I particularly liked this part, which highlighted a problem with War Games that is no longer apparent from our vantage point:

typical silliness of data rates much faster than possible with the modems in use


Meanwhile, I'm about ready for the 'net to stop talking about Star Wars, how about you?

Posted Mon Jun 24 00:59:12 2013
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                Starring
                MARK HAMILL - HARRISON FORD - CARRIE FISHER
                  BILLY DEE WILLIAMS - ANTHONY DANIELS as c3po
         Co-starring David Prowse - Kenny Baker - Peter Mathew - Frank Oz
 Directed by RICHARD MARQUAND Produced by HOWARD KAZANJIAN Story by GORGE LUCAS
                Screeplay by LAWRENCE KASDAN and GEORGE LUCAS

It's time for Return of the Jedi reviews on olduse.net!

Here's one by none other than Gene Spafford.

If you're still unsure about going to see it, here's a longer review.

The film was fantastic, special effects out did themselves, you can't tell where they used the computer graphics for scenery because it all melded in so well

.. I'm not sure about those muppets though.

Posted Sun May 26 15:34:19 2013

Usenet is branching out internationally, with some sites in Europe already, and now, Australia_joins_USENET

        Data is actually collected at sdchema and transferred
        every week or so to a mag tape which is then sent airmail
        to the department of Computer Science at the University
        of Sydney in Australia where it is sent into the
        Australian network. It is a slow but cheap way of
        sending news, mail and files to Australian sites.
Posted Fri Mar 29 22:49:59 2013
Joey Lady Arwen

Ok, ok. I'm Lady Arwen. Enough already.

-- Andy Tannenbaum

An interesting admission from the inventor of Minix, but is it true? I'm far from convinced after going back over the Lady Arwin kerfluffle.

One of her first messages, on net.philosophy about fear of death stuck in my head. But I barely noticed the "Arwen" signature, it was simply well written, and its followup too. And it resonated interestingly across 30 years; I wondered if the author's flame had guttered out.

Maybe if I'd noticed the "Lady Arwian of U.C.S.D." signature on some of her other posts, I'd have been more stuck by the name, but I doubt it. Just someone in the SCA surely? Anyhow, she's posted a lot, in the top ten by volume in February. A random sampling across the groups:

So, the reaction from the net to this poster, in the "Unmask Lady Arwin" thread makes me a bit uncomfortable (due to probably some sexism), but is also rather interesting. Some wonder if this person is really female. Others seem struck by what's apparently some form of pseudonym, which is a bit uncommon on Usenet in 1983. Others seem to want to form a fan club for this somethat prolific and interesting poster, which has not really happened on Usenet before either, but surely will happen again.

This post is perhaps the most amusing reaction:

1. It is a well-known fact that there are many AI projects running on the net, one of them being floyd!trb. Floyd!trb has just claimed to be Lady Arwen. 2. There is an expert system called R1 produced at CMU which configures Vaxen. Clearly, Arwen is a punning form of R1. My conclusion (and conclusions differing from mine may be directed to /dev/null) is that Lady Arwen is a cloned version of the TRB program which is being developed at UCB and which bears the same relationship (better) to TRB that Berkely Un*x bears to Bell Un*x. The "Lady" nomenclature merely indicates that the gender bit has been toggled from 0 to 1 (or 1 to 0, let's not quibble about which).

.. Nah, that's not right. I figured it all out!


In other news, punch card services discontinued at BTL...

Posted Tue Mar 12 06:27:42 2013

"USENET interchanged standard posted" is a fascinating bit of history. Here we have the initial rationalle for what became the "modern" Usenet news format, based on RFC-822.

The reason for having a standard is that there are now five separate, full fledged implementations of news, all talking to each other, and up until now the only specification for how sites should communicate has been "whatever doesn't break the code".

Don't know about you, but I'm eagerly looking forward to newsgroup names longer than 14 characters and moderated newsgroups.

But what I'm most eagerly looking forward to is the References header, which will allow threading of messages, with full nested threads. Threads have mostly had to be followed manually and by heuristics so far, so that'll be really nice!

(I am less looking forward to the new Expires header, since anything posted with such a header in 1983 will likely have expired already by the time I get around to reading it.)

Standard draft text itself

Posted Sun Mar 10 05:34:36 2013
Joey expiry

olduse.net now expires old articles after 60 days. This should provide a better view of how Usenet looks now, without the accumulated cruft from A-news days a year or two ago.

Posted Tue Feb 26 23:49:43 2013

A peek at the development of the 286:

As far as the 286 is concerned, as of this date, nobody's even seen a fully functional one. The A-step samples out do not have the memory managment working yet and there are some pretty strange things happening with interrupts. And the darned thing won't run correctly with interrupts at 8 Mhz; you have to decrease the clock speed to about 7.5 Mhz. Intel's due to sample the B-step parts later on this month.

Posted Sat Feb 23 07:05:54 2013

First mention of AIDS on Usenet. (Although not the first time the word appeared there; there was earlier an unfortunately named host named AIDS-UNIX on Usenet.)

First information about European Usenet nodes.

Posted Fri Dec 21 00:53:34 2012

A Letter from Xanadu is an interesting look inside Ted Nelson's Xandu project.

With the Sun workstation's bit map graphics capability, we can now start working out he best way to visually display links.

That sounds almost like it's 1992 and the web is being built.. but no, it's a decade earlier.

"Three-sets", the part of the system which allows a programmer to include information about a link other than where it connects to, are now implemented.

And, of course, tried to do things that are still not available on the web today.

We recently fed a document of .75 megabytes into the system. Linkages within this document and from others have been made and tested; this is demonstrable proof that the Xanadu Hypertext System can handle large databases without degrading response time.

Ah, it's still 1982 after all!

Posted Sat Dec 15 04:36:28 2012

Back in 1994 when I was in college, I remember seeing versions of "Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette", and as I recall I wrote a paper for a Sociology class citing it as an example of ways Usenet maintained its culture. The irony of course, was that this was already in year two of The September that Never Ended.

But back then, I was missing another important piece of the puzzle that I stumbled over today in my buldging olduse.net feed, an article titled "Emily Post on Usenet Etiquette"

This "Emily Post" well predates Brad Templeton's better known "Emily Postnews", and it's obvious that the latter was written as a parody of it.

Take this question in "Emily Post":

        - "Where does 'fubar' come from?"

          In my opinion the best answer seems to be "Fouled up beyond
          all recognition." There are lots of versions of this
          acronym, in particular "Fouled" is usually replaced by a
          less polite word.  "foobar", "foo" and "bar" are all
          derived from "fubar."  (See discussion of net.jokes for the
          reason I use the polite word.)

Which inspired this snark in "Emily Postnews":

Q: What does foobar stand for?
A: It stands for you, dear.

This difference in tone between the formal, clear, and staid "Emily Post", and the informal, referential, and ironic "Emily Postnews" is one of the things I'm most interested in seeing evolve as Usenet grows its own culture.

And so I was most interested to see this response to "Emily Post", which articulates the problem Usenet is struggling with in 1982 so well:

Here we have a new media which is not quite a publication (such as a memo, book or newspaper), not quite a conversation (there is a definite time lag between messages), and not quite a "semi-public forum" as some people would have you believe. The one criticism of the paper is that it implied to me that it was socially unacceptable to use the net conversationally [...]
Posted Sun Dec 9 20:29:19 2012

The turtles are just red (or blue if partially submerged) ovals, but the logs and frogs look good, and the motion of things to the left or right is very smooth.

-- review

Posted Thu Nov 1 21:43:58 2012

An updated map of Usenet, using data from Karen and Mark Horton. There are now 662 hosts on Usenet.

See also: current usenet map

Posted Sun Oct 21 21:40:39 2012

Learning of the death of Haskell Curry from a post on net.applic, I'm unexpectedly saddened by a 30 year old event.

The only computing figure so well respected that not only his last name is used to refer to a common programming language capability, "currying"; but his fist name is also used, for the haskell language. (olduse.net is brought to you by some haskell code.)

Some more interesting tidbits about him, his father, and Alaxander Graham Bell in this post.

I got involved in the things that bear his name well after his time, and so never thought to mourn him. But reading the traces of the event on olduse.net, I realize that I'll never get to see him post there, like I see Dennis Ritchie from time to time. A new experience of loss.

Posted Fri Sep 21 22:46:10 2012

The utzoo usenet archives surely survived to get to us because of the care taken to archive them all along the way. We even have details of archival work recorded inside the archives, like today's post about the A-news archives being moved to two redundant archive tapes.

That post counts "nearly 11000 articles". Thirty years later, so do I:

utzoo-usenet/news001f1>find -type f|wc -l
10918

Unfortunatly, the post does not give the total number of bytes of A-news that were archived, although it does mention they had used 28000 blocks of disk space. So it's hard to tell if we have a complete set of A-news.

We know the B-news set is incomplete; at some point they ran out of tapes and overwrote some old B-news archives with newer data, although some of the old data was recovered from the end of the tapes.

Posted Sun Aug 26 01:43:03 2012

My olduse.net exhibit has now finished replaying the first year of historical Usenet posts from 30 years ago, in real time.

That was only twelve thousand messages, probably less than many people get on Facebook in a year.. but if you read along this year, you probably have a much better feel for what early Usenet was like. If you didn't, it's not too early to start, 9 years of Usenet's flowering lie ahead.

I don't know how many people followed along. I read .. not every message, but a large fraction of them. I see 40 or so unique NNTP connections per day, and some seem to stick around and read for quite a while, so I'm guessing there might be a few hundred people following on a weekly basis.

If you're not one of them, and don't read our olduse.net blog, here are a few of the year's highlights:

  • After announcing the exhibit it hit all the big tech sites like Hacker News and Slashdot, and Boing Boing. A quarter million people loaded the front page. For a while every one of those involved a login to my server to run tin. I have some really amusing who listings. Every post available initially was read an average of 100 times, which was probably more than they were read the first go around.
  • Beautiful ascii art usenet maps were posted as the network mushroomed; I collected them all. In a time-delayed collaboration with Mark, I produced a more modern version.
  • We watched sites struggle with the growth of usenet, and followed along as B-news was developed and deployed.
  • In 2011, Dennis Richie passed. We still enjoy his wit and insight on olduse.net.
  • We enjoyed the first posts of things like The Hacker's Dictionary and DEC Wars.
  • Some source code posted to usenet still compiles. I haven't found anything to add to Debian, yet. :)

I will probably be expiring the first year's messages before too long, to have a more uncluttered view. So if you wanted to read them, hurry up!

Posted Sun Jun 3 18:10:53 2012

I recently experienced the Badger Badger Badger! meme for the first time. Ten or more years late. But while I was unaware of it until last night, when I watched it for 15 minutes in a trance; in retrospect, it permeated the net I've inhabited for years. It's what all those Ubuntu people were referring to when the "breezy badger" release came out. It surely influenced memes I did see, including the recent nyan cat.

Interestingly, the first sentence of Dec Wars refers to another (more shortlived) Usenet meme:

Have you ever wondered what happened to all those characters eaten by arpavax?

The arpavax meme developed when a particular Usenet node, arpavax, began deleting the first several lines of messages that passed through it. In response, people began starting messages with some blank lines:

1
2
3
arpavax!

This continued for some time after arpavax was fixed.

In 1982, Usenet doesn't understand memes yet. While Dawkins coined the term in 1976, it's not been applied to the network. But, from a modern perspective, a few early memes can be seen in the posts here.

The first I noticed was Dec Wars, "the Adventures of Luke Vaxhacker, episode n" featuring 3CPU, Con Solo of the Milliamp Falcon, PDP-1 Kenobie, etc. It has so far been continued in episode n+1 episode n+3 episode n+4

I realized Dec Wars was not just a peice of amusing writing, but a meme when I came across a present-day reference it it. 30 years later and it's still in people's heads! Now, seeing a recent flurry of posts requesting it be reposted by people who only caught some of it (and what happened to episode 2?), I'm sure that it's a meme.

I've got my eye out for more early Usenet memes. A message I read today titled "Confessions of a UNIX Junkie" looks promising to be one. Good writing, tying into a long-running meme about computer addition that was only edging into popular conciousness in 1982, and with a final line that any Linuxer would appreciate: "Doomed, I'll never be happy until I've seen the kernel with my own eyes, license or no license!"

Posted Thu May 17 22:46:05 2012

We're made the transition from A news to B news, following our upstream feed, Utzoo. The switch began on May 8th 1982. There were a few duplicate articles received on both A and B news. At this point, all new articles are from B news; the switch is complete.

At this historical remove, there's not a lot of visible difference between the A news and B news articles you will see in your news reader. One nice thing is that there are a pair of headers that show how long it took a message to propigate to Utzoo:

Posted: Mon May 10 13:25:04 1982
Received: Tue May 11 03:32:32 1982

In all, 11 thousand A news articles have reached olduse.net. There will be a lot more B news articles!


Update: Turns out that modern newsreaders don't do a good job of displaying From headers that contain only a UUCP bang path. Who knew? Rather than fixing all the news readers, I'm putting in a hack to the From headers of articles posted after this point.

Posted Thu May 10 19:59:41 2012
Joey pacman

"Today" in 1982, Mark posted a console mode pacman game to net.sources. This is the first sizable program posted there. So, I downloaded it onto my Linux system, and typed "make". And after just two fixes, I got it to build, and it seems to work great. What a testiment to the portability of Unix!

Here's the code.

BTW, this implementation of pacman was discussed and improved quite a lot over the previous several months. I'd say it was the second most discussed game after rogue. The "real" Pac-Man was a big deal in 1981-82!

Posted Thu Apr 5 01:10:17 2012

Ken explains why rogue is delayed. Nice to see April 1st celebrated in the traditional geek way 30 years ago!

But better yet is Announcing net.pcm, a truely precient April Fools:

Each week you will recieve approx. 360 million bytes of logarithmically compressed PCM data (at 20khz sample rate) which will wholly reproduce a complete LP.

Olduse.net was itself used in a prank in 2012: This original article was modified to provide convincing material about ls -y having been used in SHAR files, as part of a larger prank.

Posted Sun Apr 1 20:16:22 2012

Pavel Curtis is a familiar name to me.. he wrote LambdaMOO! But here, he's just annoyed at email addresses:

I attempted to reply to a news item recently for which the return address was as follows: vax135!harpo!mhtsa!ihnss!ucbvax!C70:sri-unix!KING@KESTREL I have now received my letter back from vax135!harpo!mhtsa!ihnss!ucbvax!Network:c70 telling me that there was "No such mailbox at this site"

Could someone please tell me just what the address means and how it gets generated and how I'm supposed to reply to it?

The explanation was complicated; the address tried to traverse both Usenet and the ARPANET, and failed. Even parsing it was ambiguous.

Following up to that was this awesome post:

So you want a reply command that works 100% of the time? So does the rest of the world! The UUCP/Berknet/ARPA environment is just too weird and full of glitches for any static program to handle it. Berkeley's Mail program makes a valiant attempt but botches about half the time I try to use the reply command.

End-to-end communication that works all the time. Yes, that would be nice. :)

While I've read repeatedly how Sendmail's baroque syntax was designed to allow for translation of email addresses between networks, I didn't really understand the motivation until I saw this thread play out on olduse.net. Was this thread perhaps an inspiration for sendmail? It will hit the olduse.net sometime this year.

Posted Fri Mar 16 06:41:06 2012

Posted to olduse.net today, The Hacker's Dictionary!

Don't confuse this with ESR's New Hacker's Dictionary. This page, which also contains a later version of the file from 1988, is critical of ESR, for "changing its emphasis from Lisp-based to UNIX-based (blithely ignoring the distinctly anti-UNIX aspects of the LISP culture celebrated in the original); second, by watering down what was otherwise the fairly undiluted record of a single cultural group through this kind of mixing".

The version posted today is the canonical version, maintained by Don Woods, Guy Steele, and Mark Crispin on ARPANET since 1976. Their email addresses are included "if you'd rather not munge the file yourself".

Enjoy your YU-SHIANG WHOLE FISH!

Posted Sun Feb 26 21:24:40 2012

Some uses of the net are so extremely obvious, messages so in tune with their medium, that it's impossible to imagine the net without them. Recipes, flamewars, pictures of kittens, porn.

So, it's startling to be confronted, in my daily news feed, with the first recipes posted to usenet.

Both because usenet had been around for over a year before someone thought to do that, and because the recipes posted are so simple.

Would anyone dare to post this recipe today?

Simple

Cook pasta for 2. Meanwhile, smash up a couple cloves garlic, sautee very lightly in 3 or 4 Tablespoons of olive oil. When the pasta is done, drain it and swish it around in the pan with this stuff a couple of times. Add more oil or garlic at will.

Maybe if compressed to 140 characters to fit in a tweet. Otherwise, it's too simple a thought to say. Surely someone said it before. And now we know when.

This may also explain why the first jokes posted to usenet seem so juvenile. Starting, literally, with a string of light bulb jokes. They are juvenile, but on this medium, they were being said for the first time.

Posted Fri Feb 3 01:22:48 2012

This map is a collaboration between Mark, who collected the graph data and site descriptions, and a strange guy named Joey who seems to have technology from the future which quickly generated it.

You can click on many of the nodes to view the descriptions of the individual sites on Usenet in 1981 and early 1982.

See also: current usenet map

Posted Sat Jan 21 04:03:43 2012

Reading net.games, we can see that many things have remained the same across decades of time and the evolution of rogue into nethack.

Through posted high scores, we can see that team ant has always killed more than its share of young adventurers.

There are tricky ways to cheat; the bug is always already known to the shadowy dev team, but a fix not yet released.

The post "a rogue's tail" is an early example of a style of storytelling often used in describing ascention or other notable nethack games today.

Tonite I finally put it all together. I was on level 15, I had a -1 ring of dexterity in my pack. I entered a dark room and there in front of me was the nymph. I quickly ran back into the tunnel. Slowly I dropped each possession as I walked towards the temple that would bestow immorality upon me. Saving my sword and armor least I be ambushed at the threshold I entered the room. Two squares lay between me and the nymph. I dropped my armor and stepped forward, Soon I would know for sure. I placed my mace carefully on the floor. I stood naked but for the cursed ring. Immortality?! I moved forward to attack the nymph. CRASH!! I had fallen through a trapdoor...

And of course the few who have found the amulet of YENDOR and escaped to tell the tale always lord it over the rest of us.

Posted Fri Dec 2 23:02:48 2011

Here it is, not even 1982 yet and on net.news people are complaining about newsgroup names and too-specific newsgroups.

This suggested renaming to a hierarchy with names like "net.rec.scuba" and "net.auto.vwrabbit" predates the Great Renaming by five years.

Posted Wed Nov 30 22:11:34 2011
Posted Thu Oct 13 15:09:38 2011

Today I added a list of some recently posted messages on a sidebar on the front page. This should help you find something new and interesting to link to, tweet, etc.

As usual, I had some fun with Haskell as I built this. The interesting problem was how to choose which recently posted messages to display? I don't want it to just display the 10 newest, because then an active thread could swamp the display. I wanted a nice variety of messages posted over the past few days. My solution was the following code, which probably speaks for itself.

reduce :: RecentMsgs -> RecentMsg -> RecentMsgs
reduce m n
        | have sameMessageId = nuke sameMessageId
        | have tooOld = nuke tooOld
        | have sameSubjects = nuke sameSubjects
        | have similarSubjects = nuke similarSubjects
        | have sameNewsGroups = nuke sameNewsGroups
        | have sameAuthors = nuke sameAuthors
        | S.size m == 0 = m
        | otherwise = nuke oldest
        where
        -- let's skip the implementation details

(Special thanks to Adam Sjøgren for making article.olduse.net so I can link to the articles!)

Posted Wed Oct 5 00:57:02 2011

For maximum retro, why not read olduse.net in a terminal from the period?

This screenshot is Usenet on an Apple II. Well, as emulated by xscreensaver, but the video artifacts, slow updates, and background snow make it seem very real when I'm using it to read about the continuing complications of the first Space Shuttle launch.

If you have an old terminal, hook it up to something and use it to read olduse.net, and post a picture!

Posted Thu Sep 29 06:21:59 2011

Adam Sjøgren has contributed article.olduse.net, which lets us link to olduse.net articles by Message-ID. Thanks Adam!

In posts to the website, a link to a given Messsage-ID can be made using a shortcut, for example: [[!article 760@Autzoo.UUCP]] --Joey

Posted Sun Jul 24 14:39:41 2011

So posted henry yesterday to the hacknews group in 760@Autzoo.UUCP.

As an experiment, for our first month on Usenet, recently completed, we have been getting all the news etc. that Usenet has available. Alas, this has a price, both in phone bills and in my time spent babysitting the link late at night. I have been doing some arithmetic about the costs involved, and the answer keeps coming out as Too Much. For a one-month experiment, ok, but on a continuing basis, no.

If all this stuff were vital and important, that would be different, but much of it is fascinating but essentially trivial gossip. At 300 baud, this is a luxury we can't afford just now. So we are going to have to stop getting some newsgroups. Precisely which ones will get the axe I haven't entirely sorted out yet, but I must regretfully announce that human-nets and sf-lovers will be the first to go -- they are just too bulky. The detailed hit list will appear soon.

Anyone wishing to keep a particular "axed" newsgroup alive may do so by committing to pay for it (phone charges plus a surcharge for human hassle). This must be real money, folks. If your driving passion is to keep sf-lovers open, be warned that sf-lovers costs AT LEAST one hundred dollars a month.

Unfortunatly it's too late to pay for utzoo's long-distance calls to North Carolina, or give them a 1200 baud modem, so from here out oldusenet will probably be offering only a partial feed of Usenet, unless another site steps forward to offer a feed of course. ;)


Meanwhile, keep an eye on net.news; some guy called "ucbvax!Onyx:glickman" is talking about writing a new netnews. Who knows if anything will ever come of it.

Posted Sun Jun 19 18:42:55 2011

This post is updated as new usenet maps are posted on olduse.net.

July 1983 map:

The map is up to 519 sites in North America plus 29 sites in Europe.
and 1 in Australia.  It is becoming increasingly three-dimensional.
Because of this, there is one crossover on the map, as well as a number
(16) of connections that are keyed in with numbers (so that (1) connects
to (1) and so on).

Reading the map:  -, |, and + indicate connections.  Lines never pass
through a +, which always indicate where the connecting line ends or
changes direction.  Logical buses are represented by =.  This means
that a site such as hplabs is indicated by the entire string of
characters as follows:  +====+=hao===+====+.
                                                                                                                   olduse.net
                                                                                                                         \
                                                                                                                  (wormhole to 2013)
USENET LOGICAL MAP - July 10,1983                                                                                          \                                                                        Karen Shannon (sun!kas)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                   orstcs  kirk  ssovax--interlab  ism750  ism780  images  ico  hscfvax  hscvax  mit-eddie--mit-vax--(3)     \ utcsstat utecfa trigraph  munodie  watcecit           uw70                     auvax                             
                       |    |       |                   |     |       |     |      |       |         |       |                \  |        |        |        |        |                |                        |                                
 arizona  denelcor     | hp-cvd  icalqa--omsvax   cfib--+=====+==ima==+=====+-----n44a--wjh12-----genrad--grkermit--masscomp   \ +==+==utcsrgv=====+----garfield  wateng    uw-vlsi--uw-june  (16)   mprvaxa  alberta                           
    |      |           |    |       | |       |         |     |    |  |                    |         |                |         \   |                                |                |         |       |      |                                
 kpno  csu-cs--hp-dcd--hp-pcd   (9) | aus86  (11)     inmet  imd  ipa | rayssd--brunix--foxvax1      |       kobold--orc   dciem-utzoo---------watmath------------watdaisy   teltone--+==uw-beaver==+--ubc-vision                               
    |    |                 |     |  |                                 |                              |                             | |         |     |                                |          |      |      |                                
    +====+=hao===+====+--+=+===+=+=hplabs==========+-----sri-unix-----cca--------------------------+=+=+=====+===linus======+======+ hcr   watarts  watcgl                 uvicctr--ssc-vax      |  ubc-medgen |                                
    |            |    |  | |   |     |             |                  | |                          |   |     |              |                                                         |          |             |                                
   (5)         cires  |  | | oliveb  hpda------+  hplabsc  yale-comix | csin       unh  vortex   wivax | security--vaxine   | cg-d   cwrunix--cwruecmp--medman           microsoft--fluke--oz  (13)         sfucmpt                             
                 |    |  | |         |         |                  |   |             |     |        |   |                    |   |                 |                          |                   |                                              
         opus--nbires |  | hplabsb  hpdb--hpdc | twg      packet  +===+======+======+=====+========+===+=====decvax=========|===+=================+============+==+==========+===================+===========+                                  
                 |    |  |                 |   |  |            |  |          |                                              |                                  |  |                                          |                                  
      utastro--ut-ngp |  |    avsdF     hptabu |  | wdl1   sco |  | flairvax |           bmcg--felix     sdchema  noscvax   | sbcs  rdin  sunrise  micomz      |  |  twin40--unc-c  mi-cec--idis--pitt--dri0 | adiron                           
                      |  |      |              |  |  |       | |  | |        |             |                |       |       |   |     |      |       |         |  |              |           |               | |                                
            nsc--menlo70 |    avsdS--atd--dsd--fortune------amd70 | |  ios   |     (9)--sdcrdcf-------------+==sdcsvax===+--+===+=philabs====+----micomvax     |  | dvamc--+=====+===mcnc===++===+---+===duke+=+--phs                           
                      |  |      |                  |           |  | |   |    |           |                     |    |    |  |   |                              |  |        |          |     |    |   |   |     |                                
   varian  syteka--sytek |    avsdT    p500vax--megatest--sun--decwrl--qubix |       trw-unix--scgvaxd      sdccsu3 |    | (12) |  nybcb  rocky2               |  |   ikonas  (10)--ncsu   tucc--+unc+  (2)  ucf-cs--fau                        
        |             |  |                         |       |      |          |        |    |                |    |  |    |      |    |      |                  |  |                   |     |      |           |                                
  (15)--+===+=======zehntel====================+  ubvax  altos86  turtlevax  |   trwspf    trwspp      sdcatta--sdcattb  | rna--+====+=cmcl2+=+--cmcl1         |  |                 uvacs  ecs  brl-bmd      uf-che                             
            |       | |                        |                             |                            |      |    |  |           |        |                |  |                   |            |                                            
       zinfandel  zps |  (13)   tekid  tekcad  +------------+       ucsfcgl  |                            |    sdcarl |  |        lanl-a   esquire             |  |                 ied102      udrelay                                         
                      |    |      |      |                  |           |    |                            |           |  |           |        |                |  |                                                                             
bronze--+==tekmdp==+--+====+=+==tektronix+==+==+----ucbcad--+====ucbvax=+====+                         phonlab-------sdcsla      unm-ivax   cubs45             |  |  ittral  ndcuts  qumix                                                      
        |     |       |      |           |  |  |       |                |                                                         |    |                       |  |    |       |       |                                                        
  crimson   dadla   iddic  tekchips    reed | tekecs  ucbesvax     ucbtopaz                                                   unmvax  nmtvax                   |  +====+==ittvax=======+--bunker--bunkerb                                       
            | | |     |      |              |                           |                                                                                      |       |       |       |                                                        
      dadla-a | |   tekgds   |   sequel--ogcvax--metheus--cdi       populi       cda5d         llkp03  hound  houx[j,h,s,v]                                    |     wxlvax  dcdwest  sii--hei44                                                
              | |            |              |                                      |             |      |      |                                               |                                                                                
     dadla-b--+ dadla-d  teklabs  hogpd   (11)    hocsf--hocs[d-e,g-k,t]   wb2---houxz--wbux5  whuxk  houxa  houxk--houxw  hou2[a-b]  houx[c-d,i,l,r,u,y]      |                                                                                
                                    |               |                              |      |      |      |      |      |      |          |                      |                                                                                
   (4)    eisx--npoiv--npois--------+=====+====hogpc+========+---------------------+======+=====++======+====houxm====+=====++====+=====+--houem               |                                                                                
    |       |                             |                  |                                  |                           |     |     |                      |                                                                                
  whuxlb--pyuxll--abnjh   astrovax  (8)  (6)  cbrap  cbosg  houx[b,e,g,n,o-q,t] uofm-cv--mb2c  (7)  gatech---msdc--(10)   hocda  (8)   houxf                   |                                                                                
    |                         |      |           |    |                                    |             |   |  |          |  |         |                      |                                                                                
  gummo       pyuxqq     princeton   |  osu-dbs--+====+==cbosgd=+====+--mddc      hfhrv--mb2b  bpa--sb6--emory  itm  (2)   |  machaids--5941ux                 |                                                                                
    |            |            |      |           |    |         |    |                     |        |                 |    |                                   |                                                                                
    |      pyuxk |  circe--ulysses--mhuxa----mhuxi  cbscd5    nscs  (1)         scbhq--+===+=sb1====+--+=====burl=+===+--spanky--alfalfa                       |                                                                                
    |         |  |                   |       |   |    |         |                      |                          |   |    |                                   |      ----------------------------------------------------                      
    | pyuxvv  |  |    pyuxjj  pyuxcc |     aluxz |  cbscc     cbrmc             att3--ll1--ll1b  mgweed   (14)  clyde |   tpsa     hou5b                       |      | Additional Connections:                          |                      
    |   |     |  |       |       |   |       |   |              |                      |            |       |         |              |                         |      |                                                  |                      
    |   +=====+==+===pyuxi===+===+--mhuxm    |   |           mork-cb            tty3b--+==otuxa==+--+=====+=we13======+     hou5d--hou5a   odin                |      |  (1)  cbosgd--ihnp4                              |                      
    |   |        |      |    |   |   |  |    |   |                                     |                  |           |       |      |      |                  |      |  (2)  duke--burl                                 |                      
    | u1100a  pyuxss  pyuxhh | pyuxl | mhuxd |   |                                  nwuxd  inuxb  inuxd  we53--kcwin  uniq  hou5e--hou5f--orion--houca         |      |  (3)  eagle--mit-vax                             |                      
    |   |                    |       |  |    |   |                                            |      |                        |      |             |           |      |  (4)  floyd--whuxlb                              |                      
    | u1100s       pyuxdd--pyuxnn   mhuxv    |   |  uicsg  ccvaxa   moria            inuxa--+=+======inuxc======+--ixn5c    hou5c  ariel--houti---(6)          |      |  (5)  hao--seismo                                |                      
    |                        |       |       |   |    |       |       |                     |                   |    |               |      |                  |      |  (6)  hogpc--houca and hogpc--houti              |                      
    |                      pyuxmm   mhuxr  mhuxj |  uicsl--+==+=uiucdcs====+------------pur-ee--iuvax--isrnix  inuxe |   tesla       |   pegasus--maxvax       |      |  (7)  houxm--ihnp4                               |                      
    |                                |       |   |         |      |        |              |  |                       |     |         |                         |      |  (8)  houxm--mhuxa                               |                      
    |        research               mhuxh----mhuxt    uiucuxc--uiucsrl  parsec            | ecn-pa--ecn-pc--ecn-ed   |  cornell----vax135--------floyd-------+ |      |  (9)  hplabs--sdcrdcf                            |                      
    |           |                    |         |           |               |              |  |                       |     |                       |         | |      | (10)  ncsu--msdc                                 |                      
    | rabbit--alice  allegra  hlexa--hlhop     |      uiuceml            ctvax   minn-ua  | ecn-ec  pucc-i           |   (16)                     (4)        | |      | (11)  omsvax--ogcvax                             |                      
    |           |       |                      |                           |       |      |  |        |              |                                       | |      | (12)  philabs--seismo                            |                      
    |   +====+==+==+====+=eagle================+                        trsvax   umn-cs  purdue-----pucc-h--pur-phy  |       cvl--umcp-cs--aplvax            | |      | (13)  tektronix--decvax and tektronix--uw-beaver |                      
    |   |    |     |                                                               |      |                          |        |                              | |      | (14)  we13--ihnp4                                |                      
    |   |  mh3bs  (3)      rocks34--rocksvax--sunybcs     burdvax--psuvax        stolaf  ncrday--cincy     (15)      |    +-rlgvax  dvlcn  slinac            | |      | (15)  zehntel--ihnp4                             |                      
    |   |    |                          |                      |      |            |                        |        |    |   |         |  |                 | |      | (16)  uw-beaver--cornell                         |                      
    |   |  mhtsa      crystal--uwvax    | tropix   ritvp    presby  psupdp1        +===============ihnp4====+=+======+    | uf-cgrl     sask--hssg40--adec23 | |      ----------------------------------------------------                      
    |   |                        |      |      |   |           |                   |                 |        |      |    |   |         |                    | |                                                                                
    |   |  wheps      electrolux |  rochester--ritcv--ccieng5  |  (5)    (12)     (1)     cdlncch--laidbak  (14)    (7)   | beesvax--utah-cs--utah-gr--pwa-b | |                                                                                
    |   |    |                |  |      |                      |   |       |                                              |             |                    | |                                                                                
    |   |  zeppo     cit-vax--+==+======+============seismo====+===+=======+----------------------------------------------+             |                    | |                                                                                
    |   |    |                                         |                                                                                |                    | |                                                                                
    +===+====+=========================================+========================================harpo===================================+====================+=+                                                       

EUROPE
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                              North American Map
                                       |
                                    philabs
                                       |
    hirst1  ru-cc44  west44            |  ibt      sara70
       |       |       |               |   |          |
       |    ru-cs44  root44       vu44 | diku  nlgvax | vmucnam
       |       |       |           |   |   |     |    |    |
comet--+======ukc======+=====+-----+=mcvax=+=+===+====+====+--vub   
               |             |     |    |    |   |    |    |
logica--+===edcaad===+      regi   | dutesta |  zti1  | mcpdp45
        |            |             |         |        |
        | +=edmiru=+ |          philmds   uvapsy   mcpdp34
        | |        | |
       edee--edai--edmrc
        |            |
        +===glasgow==+--glhocus


AUSTRALIA
________________________________________________________________________________


                    basservax--sdchema--North American Map
                    (australia)



IHNP4 - Leaf nodes
________________________________________________________________________________

          ihtnt  ihux[a-b,e-f,h-x]  ihps[1-4]  iwlc[5-8]  ixhte  ih1ap
            |      |                     |        |        |       |
          ihldt    | ihnet  ihnss  ihpad | ih4ep  |  ihnp1 | ihnp3 | 
            |      |   |      |      |   |   |    |    |   |   |   |
     ihn5i--+===+==+===+======+====ihnp4=+===+====+====+===+===+===+--ihu1[e-f]
            |   |      |      |     |    |   |    |    |   |   |   |
            | ihn5l  ihlts    |   ihtpa  | ihhfl  |  ihu1e | ihu1f |
            |                 |          |        |        |       |
          iwsl[1-7]   ixn5[d-h,k,o]   iwu1[a-d]  ihima   ihhfl   iheds


DRUX* (Currently isolated)
________________________________________________________________________________

              druxs--drux[h-r,t-z]

April 1983 map:

USENET LOGICAL MAP - April 2, 1983                                                                                                       Karen Shannon (sun!kas)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   olduse.net
   az70         aus86  omsvax  orstcs   kirk         ism750  n44a  images  ico    alberta--ubc-vision--sfucmpt    wjh12--foxvax1     utcsstat--utcsrgv--trigraph   /
     |            |        |      |       |             |     |       |     |               |  |   |                |                                |            (wormhole
 arizona  ssovax--+=icalqa=+   hp-pcd--hp-cvd     cfib--+=====+==ima==+=====+       ubc-medgen | mprvaxa  grkermit--genrad--mitccc  wateng--watdaisy | dciem     / to 2013)
     |                     |      |                     |     |    |  |     |                  |                    |    |                    |      |   |      / 
   kpno     nbires--cires  |      | hplabsb  hplabsc  inmet  imd  ipa | ism780   teltone--uw-beaver--uw-june--uw70  |    linus--security   watmath---+==utzoo==+
     |                |    |      |    |        |                     |                   |                |        |    |   |              |   |        |     |
cvl  +====+=hao=======+=+--+===hplabs+=+========+-----sri-unix-------cca--csin    microsoft--fluke--vax1   uw-vlsi  | wivax  vaxine   watarts  watcgl   hcr    |
 |        |           | |            |                                |               |      |   |  |               |   |                                |     |
rlgvax--+ |   crystal | csu-cs      hpda-------+      brunix--rayssd  | cg-d          | ssc-vax  vax2   vortex  unh |   | medman--cwruecmp--cwrunix      |     |
        | |      |    |              |         |         |            |  |            |                    |     |  |   |            |                   |     |
presby--seismo--uwvax |             hpdb--hpdc |      yale-comix--+===+==+===+========++=============+=====+=decvax=+===+============+===============+===+=====+
  |       |           |                    |   |                  |   |      |         |                                                             |         |
burdvax   | rocksvax  |       avsdF     hptabu |  twg             | sultan   |  ittapp | ndcuts  tpdcvax     twin40--web40  mi-cec--idis--pitt--dri0 | adiron  |
          |   |       |         |              |   |              |          |    |    |   |         |                  |            |               |  |      |
ritcv--rochester   menlo70    avsdS--atd--dsd--fortune--wdl1      |          |    +====ittvax==+=====+--bunker  ikonas--+===+=mcnc=+=+==+---+====duke+==+--phs |
        |             |         |                  |              |          |    |     |      |     |                      |      |    |   |    |             |
   rocks34  syteka--sytek     avsdT    p500vax--megatest--sun--decwrl--amd70 |  qumix  sii  dcdwest  wxlvax         uvacs--ncsu   tucc--+unc+  ucf-cs--uf-che  |
                      |                            |       |      | |        |                 |                            |      |      |      |             |
           varian--zehntel--zps                  ubvax  altos86   | flairvax |  trwspf  trwspp +=====sdcsvax===+--sdchema  msdc   ecs  brl-bmd  fau            |
                      |                                           |          |      |     |    |     |    |    |            |           |                      |
           crimson    |      tekchips  tekid                  turtlevax      |  trw-unix--+    |  sdcsla  |  philabs--+    emory   udrelay   unm-ivax--nmtvax  |
              |       |          |       |                                   |      |          |     |    |    |      |                         |              |
    bronze--tekmdp----+=======tektronix==+=======+--ucbcad--+====ucbvax======+  sdcrdcf--sdccsu3  phonlab |  micomvax | cmcl1  nybcb  rocky2  lanl-a  cubs45   |
              |       |                  |       |          |    |    |           |      |     |  |       |           |   |      |       |      |      |       |
           dadla-a  iddic       reed--teklabs  tekcad     populi | ucbonyx      bmcg  sdcattb--sdcatta  noscvax       +===+====cmcl2=====+======+---esquire---+|
              |       |                  |                       |                       |                                                      |             ||
   dadla-b--dadla  tektinker  sequel--ogcvax--metheus--cdi    ucsfcgl   maxvax        sdcarl           tpsa--spanky         e  f  g  j  (hocs*) |    sbcs     ||
              |                                                           |                                    |            |  |  |  |          |     |       ||
           dadla-d         u1100s----------------------------u1100a    pegasus             5941ux--machaids--hocda       d--+=hocsb==+--k       |    peri     ||
                              |                                 |         |                 |                  |            |                   |     |       ||
       +======================|==npois============+-------------+=========+=======houxm=====+ (houx*) q  r  y  +==houxz===+=+----hou5d--hou5a   +===floyd====+||
       |                      |    |              |             |                           |         |  |  |  |          |               |     |            |||
       |             whuxlb   |  wbux5    sescent | cbosg     whuxk  hogpb----------b--+==+houxa+==+--+=houxi==+--p     ihps3           hou5e  vax135        |||
       |               |      |                 | |  |                 |               |  |  |  |  |                                      |     |   |        |||
     npoiv------------eisx--pyuxbb     osu-dbs--cbosgd--nscs---rmc   hogpc  v----h--j--k  c  f  o  hound  uofm-cv                npoiv  hou5c   | cornell    |||
      | |              |      |                   |             |           |                               |                      |      |     |   |        |||
      | |    abnjh--pyuxll    |          mhuxd  mhuxi--aluxz  mork-cb    t--n       bpa--sb6  scbhq   +---mb2b--uofm-hfh         hou5f--hou5b   | uw-beaver  |||
      | |                     |            |      |                         |              |    |     |                                         |            |||
      | |          pyuxmm--pyuxdd  burl--mhuxv--mhuxj                       s   att3--ll1--+====sb1===+--burl--kcwin--we53      houxe  orion--ariel          |||
      | |                     |            |      |                                    |                  |           |           |      |      |            |||
      | |          pyuxcc--+==pyuxjj==+--mhuxm    |                                +===+==otuxa=======+---+====we13===+-----------+=lime=+----houti--houca   |||
      | |                  |          |    |      |                                |        |                         |           |      |      |            |||
      | |                pyuxk------pyuxl  |      |                             we04-3b  nwuxc  inuxa  inuxb  inuxd  uniq       hoh-2  houxg  deimos         |||
      | |                  |          |    |      |                                |        |     |      |      |                                            |||
      | |                pyuxss     pyuxvv |      | uicsg  uiuccsl  moria       princeton   +=====+==inuxc======+----ixn5c--druxs--drux[h-r,t-z]             |||
      | |                                  |      |   |       |       |                     |                          |                                     |||
      | | research         hlexa--bwkna--mhuxh    | uicsl--+==+=uiucdcs====+------------pur-ee--iuvax--isrnix          |    iwlc8   iwsl1                    |||
      | |  |                               |      |        |               |              |  |                         |        |   |                        |||
      | |  |  rabbit        mhb5c--+=mhuxa=+      |   uiucuxc--uiuceml  parsec   minn-ua  | ecn-pa--ecn-pb--ecn-ed     | iwlc7--iwsl3--iwsl2                 |||
      | |  |   |                |  |       |      |        |               |       |      |                            |        |                            |||
      | +--alice    princeton--mhb5b     mhuxt----+   uiucsrl   ihtnt    ctvax   umn-cs  purdue--------pucc-h--pur-phy |     ihps2----iwsl4--iwlc6           |||
      |      |                             |                      |                |      |              |             |        |     |   |                  |||
      |    mhtsa-----+====eagle=======+====+            ihlpb   ihldt  ihps1     stolaf  ncrday--cincy  pucc-i   ihhfl |        |  iwsl5  iwsl6              |||
      |      |       |                |    |              |       |       |       |   |                             |  |        |                            |||
      |    mh3bs  allegra--psuvax  mit-vax | iham1  ihlts | ixlpa | ixn5k |     ihps3 |  ihnss  ixn5h  iheds  ihn5i |  |        | ihuxk--ih1ap               |||
      |                               |    |   |      |   |   |   |   |   |       |   |    |      |      |      |   |  |        |   |      |                 |||
      |          dvlcn  slinac    masscomp |   +======+===+===+===+===+===+=====+=+=+=+==+=+=+===++==+===+===+==+=+=ihnp4=======+===+======+                 |||
      |              |  |                  |   |      |       |   |   |   |     |   |    |   |   |   |       |    |   |                                      |||
      | wheps   psi  sask--hssg40--adec23  | ihnet  ihps4   ixlpc | ihwld |     | ihpad  | ixlpb | ixn5e   ihtpa  | ihux[a-j,l-u,w,x]                        |||
      |   |      |   |                     |                      |       |     |        |       |                |                                          |||
      | zeppo   utah-cs--utah-gr--pwa-b    | inmet--esquire     ihnp1  ih4ep    ixn5d  ihima   ixn5c   cdlncch--laidbak--trsvax                              |||
      |   |        |                       |   |                                                                                                             |||
      +===+========+=======================+===+======================================harpo==================================================================+++


EUROPE
________________________________________________________________________________


                         North American Map
                                  |
                               philabs
                                  |
                      regi   vu44 | diku--ibt  edcaad
                       |      |   |   |          |   
                      ukc--+==+=mcvax=+=====+--edee--edmiru
                           |          |
                          vub      dutestaa

The map is up to 448 sites in North America plus 11 sites in Europe.
It is becoming increasingly three-dimensional.  Because of this, there
is one crossover on the map, as well as seven sites that appear twice.
Those sites are:  burl, esquire, ihps3, inmet, npoiv, princeton, and
uw-beaver.

Reading the map:  -, |, and + indicate connections.  Lines never pass
through a +, which always indicate where the connecting line ends or
changes direction.  Logical buses are represented by =.  This means
that a site such as hplabs is indicated by the entire string of
characters as follows:  +===hplabs+=+========+.

October 1982 map:

USENET Logical Map - October 28, 1982                                                                                                   Karen Shannon (sun!kas)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                                          olduse.net
                                                                                                                               |
                  ssovax  gsp86  omsvax                    ism750  images  ico    ubc-vision  fluke--ssc-vax    grkermit       |     utcsstat--utcsrgv--trigraph
                     |      |       |                         |       |     |         |         |                   |     (wormhole      |     
             rascal--+====intelqa===+  orstcs  hpda2    n44a--+====+=ima====+     uw-beaver--microsoft       genradbolton  to 2012)--==utzoo==--watmath--watarts
                                    |     |      |            |    |  |     |         |         |                   |                  |  |         
    kpno                   csu-cs   |  hp-pcd  hpda          imd  ipa | ism780     uw-june      | cwrunix--cwruecmp |  sultan  wivax  hcr | cg-d  yale-comix  
      |                       |     |     |      |                    |                         |              |    |    |       |        |   |        |    
   arizona   nsc--menlo70----hao----+===hplabs===+--sri-unix---------cca---+======+========+====+======decvax==+====+====+=======+========+===+=====+==+=======+
      |              |        |                        |              |    |      |        |                                                       |           |
psi--gi------------sytek    cires         atd--dsd--fortune  ubvax   csin  |      | ittapp | bunker  qumix      mi-cec--idis--pitt  ikonas  adiron | ucf-cs    |
                     |                                 |      |            |      |   |    |   |       |                 |              |      |   |   |       |
          varian--zehntel                       amd70--megatest-----sun--decwrl   |   +===ittvax=+=====+           ncsu--+=====mcnc=====+---+==+==duke=+======+|
                     |                                               |            |   |       |  |     |                 |              |   |          |      ||
     metheus--ogcvax | tekid  tekcad     ucbarpa  ucb  ucbernie   altos86         | tpdcvax  sii |  dcdwest  noscvax   web40   brl-bmd--+unc+--tucc   phs     ||
                 |   |   |       |           |     |      |                       |              |     |        |                 |                           ||
  azure--tekmdp--+===+=teklabs===+---ucbcad--+=====+=+====+===ucbvax===+==========+     sdchema--+====sdcsvax===+      nybca   udrelay                        ||
           |     |   |    |      |           |       |        |   |    |                         |       |      |        |                                    ||
dadla-a--dadla   | tekcrd |    reed       populi  ucbonyx  ucbopt | ucsfcgl                sdccsu3       |   philabs   nybcb  acf2  rocky2   cubs45           ||
         | |     |        |      |                                |                        |     |       |      |        |     |      |        |              ||
   dadla-b | tekchips   iddic   bio            u1100s-------------|---------------+  sdcattb--sdcatta    +======+==+=cmcl2=====+======+-----esquire----------+||
           |              |                      |                |               |     |        |                 |                  |                      |||
        dadla-d       tektinker                  |    eiss        |               |  sdcarl   phonlab    e f g   lanl-a   sbcs--peri--+=======floyd===+=====+|||
                                                 |     |          |               |                      | | |                                        |     ||||
                              desoto--pyuxdd--pyuxbb--eisx--vtxa  |               | (houx*)           d--hocsb--j     hou5d--hou5a  machaids--5941ux  |     ||||
                                                 |     |          |               |                       |  |           |            |          |    |     ||||
        +=================npoiv==================+-----+=======npois=====+        m  a  b  c  d  f  h  j  z  k  (hocs*)  |  hound   hocda  wbux1 |    |     ||||
        |                   |                                  |         |        |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |              |    |       |      |   |    |     ||||
        |        research   |            sescent--+===cbosgd===+--cbosg  +===+====+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+==houxi=======+====+=======+======+===+    |     ||||
        |           |       |                     |       |    |         |   |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |    |              |       |               |     ||||
        |   rabbit--+=alice=+     aluxz--mhuxi--mhuxj  osu-dbs |         |   |    n  o  p  r  s  t  v  w  y  u1100a   odin--orion--deimos--ariel----vax135  ||||
        |           |       |              |      |            |         |   |                                                |            |   |      |     ||||
        |        physics    |    pyuxll  mhuxv    |           nscs       |   |    princeton  win--we53  burdvax  hoh-2  houxe | houxg   oberon |    cornell ||||
        |           |       |      |       |      |            |         |   |       |             |       |       |      |   |   |            |            ||||
        |         mitccc    |    pyuxjj--mhuxm    |          rmas70      |   |    we04-3b--otuxa--we13-----+=======+=lime=+===+===+----------houti--houca   ||||
        |           |       |              |      |            |         |   |               |     |                                                        ||||
        |        mit-vax    |     bwkna--mhuxh    |         mork-cb      |   |             nwuxc  uniq   ihlpb    ixlpa  a  b  c  d  e  g  h  i  j  k  l  m ||||
        |                   |       |      |      |                      |   |               |             |        |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | ||||
        |                   |     hlexa    mhuxa  |                      |   |        inuxa--+==inuxc==+---+=ixn5c==+----+==+==+==+==+==druxs=+==+==+==+==+ ||||
        |                   |              |   |  |                      |   |               |   |     |   |        |    |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | ||||
        |          psuvax   |          mhb5c   mhuxt                     |   |    uiuceml    | inuxb inuxd |      ixlpc  n  o  p  q  r  t  u  v  w  x  y  z ||||
        |             |     |                  |                         |   |       |       |             |                                                ||||
        |   linus--allegra  |  mh3bs      rdb  |    whuxlb   chico       |   |    uicsovax   |     isrnix  |                                      (drux*)   ||||
        |             |     |    |         |   |         |   |           |   |       |       |       |     |                                                ||||
        |             +===mhtsa==+---------eagle--wheps--zeppo---------whuxk |    uiucdcs--pur-ee--iuvax   |        iwlc8  iwsl1  iwsl6                     ||||
        |             |          |           |             |             |   |               |             |          |      |      |                       ||||
        |           wjh12      hpuxa         |             |          whonxa |    pur-phy--purdue--ncrday  |   iwlc7--+==iwls3=+--iwsl4                     ||||
        |                                    |             |                 |               |             |          |      |      |                       ||||
        |  slinac                            |             | umncs--minn-ua  |    ihnss    ecn-pa          | ihtpa    |    iwsl2  iwsl5              ih1ap  ||||
        |    |                               |             |           |     |      |                      |  |       |                                |    ||||
        |  sask--hssg40--adec23              |             |        stolaf   |      | ixn5h   ihnp1  ihnp2 |  | ihnp4 |  a  b  c  d  e  f  g  h  i  j  k  l ||||
        |    |                               |             |           |     |      |   |       |      |   |  |   |   |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | ||||
        |  utah-cs--utah-gr                  |             |    ihps4--+==+==+======+===+===+===+======+===+==+===+=ihps3+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+==+ ||||
        |    |                               |             |           |  |  |      |   |   |   |                 |   |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | ||||
        |    |         src-unix              |    uofp     |        ihps2 |  |      | ihima | iheds       mb2b  ixn5k |  m  n  o  p  q  r  s  t  u  v  w  x ||||
        |    |            |                  |      |      |              |  |      |       |              |          |                                     ||||
        |    |   uwvax--seismo--rochester    |   presby    |           ih4ep |    ihps1   ihpad      sb6--sb1--ll1--ihldt--ihtnt               (ihux*)      ||||
        |    |            |                  |      |      |                 |                                                                              ||||
        +====+============+==================+======+======+=================+========harpo=================================================================++++

How to read the map:  Connections are denoted by either a "|" or a "-".
"Logical buses" are denoted by "=" or "+".  A logical bus is merely
a way of providing more space to indicate connections to a site.  For
example, hplabs is represented by the character string "+===hplabs===+".
Places on the map where a dash and vertical bar intersect do not
represent actual intersections, but rather crossovers (think of them
as a highway over/underpass).  Unlike the last logical map, there has
been no attempt made to differentiate between various types of networks,
largely because that information is difficult to obtain.

February 1982 map:

  USENET Logical Map  -   February 1, 1982 / Bill & Karen Shannon
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                         cwrunix--cwruecmp         watarts        olduse.net
                                     |                |                |
genradbolton   yale-comix     wivax  |     watcgl--watmath--ccnga  (wormhole
    |                |          |    |                |            to 2012)
    |      microsoft |  sultan  |    | ittvax--sii    |     Slinac     |
    |          |     |    |     |    |   |            |        |       |
+=decvax=======+=====+=+==+=====+====+===+============+===+--utzoo------
|   |                  |                                  |
|   |                  |                                 cg-d
|   |                  |
|   |      +=======+=pur-ee=+=======+        +=========+=====unc======+=====+
|   |      |       |        |       |        |         |              |     |
|   |    cincy  pur-phy  uiucdcs  purdue     |      wolfvax          mcnc  tucc
|   |                               |        |                        |     |
|   |                              pucc      |    dukgeri duke34  uok | phs |
|   |                                        |         |   |       |  |  |  |
|   +==+======+======+======+=========duke===+=========+===+=======+==+==+==+=+
|      |      |      |      |                                                 |
|   brl-bmd ucf-cs  reed  adiron    psuvax--allegra  alice--mitccc--mitmath   |
|                    |                         |       |                      |
|                   bio     research---+=======+=====mhtsa==========+=====+=+ |
|                                      |                            |     | | |
| ihuxf ihuxg ihuxh ihuxi ihuxj ihuxk  | ihlc8 ihldt druxj ih1ap  hpuxa   | | |
|   |     |     |     |     |     |    |   |     |     |     |            | | |
| +=+=+===+=+===+=+===+=+===+=+===+=+==ihnss==+==+=+===++=+==++===+===+   | | |
| |   |     |     |     |     |     |      |  |    |    | |   |   |   |   | | |
| | ihuxl ihuxm ihuxn ihuxo ihuxp ihuxs    |  |  ihima  | | ihlpb | ihps3 | | |
| |                                        |  |         | |       |       | | |
| |                                        |  | cornell | |       |       | | |
| |                                        |  |      |  | |       |       | | |
| | hocsd hocse hocsf hocsg      hound     |  |    vax135 |       |       | | |
| |   |     |     |     |          |       |  |      |    |       |       | | |
| | +=+hocsb+=====+=====+    houca | houti |  |      |  rdb-----eagle-----+ | |
| | |                            | | |     |  |      |  |         |         | |
| | |  n  o  p  r  s  t  v  w  y | | |     |  |      |  |   mhuxa | mhuxh   | |
| | |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | | |     |  |      |  |       | | |       | |
| | +==+==+==+==+==+==+houxi+==+=+=+=+=+===+  |      |  |     +=mhuxj=+     | |
| | |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | |   |   |  |      |  |     | |   | |     | |
| | |  a  b  c  d  e  f  g  h  j | m ho3e2 |  |      |  | mhuxm |   | mhuxv | |
| | |              |     |       |         |  |      |  |       |   |       | |
| | |    (houx*)   +lime-+       |     u1100a |      |  |   mhb5c   pyuxjj  | |
| | |                            |            |      |  |                   | |
| | |                            |  cbosgd--cbosg    |  |                   | |
| | |                            |            |      |  |                   | |
| | | floyd   presby   u1100s--npois--eiss    |      |  |                   | |
| | |   |       |                |            |      |  |                   | |
| | +===+==+====+=======+========+=====harpo==+======+==+===========+=====+=+ |
| |        |            |                                           |     |   |
| |     whux1b  scl--utah-cs--utah-gr                            zeppo--chico-+
| |                                                                       |
+=+==ucbvax==+------------------------------+=====ucsfcgl=========+    esquire
        :                                   |                     |
ucbonyx : ucbcad  ucbpop  ucbcory   nsc--menlo70--hao--cires      |
  :     :    :       :       :              |                     |
  +==ucbarpa=+====+==+=======+   intelqa--sytek--zehntel        sdcarl
  :               :                         |                     |
ucbopt   uwvax    :   src-unix              gi        sdcatta--sdcattb--phonlab
  |        |      :      @                  |                     |
teklabs    +=====ucb=====+                 psi        sdqmlab--sdcsvax--sdaaron
  |        @             @                                        |
tekmdp    cca--ima    sri-unix                                dcdwestvax
  |        |
azure     csin
_______________________________________________________________________________
Legend: - | +  uucp,    :  Berknet,     @  ARPAnet,     =  "bus"

December 1981 map:

  UUCP/USENET Logical Map  -   June 1, 1981 / mods by S. McGeady 11/19/81

            (ucbvax)
+=+===================================+==+
| |                                   |  |           olduse.net
| |                wivax              |  |               |
| |                  |                |  |               |
| |         microsoft| uiucdcs        |  |               |
| |  genradbo      | | |  |           |  |       (wormhole to 2011)
| |     |          | | |  | purdue    |  |               |
| decvax+===+=+====+=+=+  | |         |  |               |
|       |   | |      |    | | pur-phy |  |               |        tekmdp
|       |   | |      |    | |     |   |  |               |           |
+@@@@@@cca  | |      |    | |     |   |  |               |           |
|       |   | |  +=pur-ee=+=+=====+===+  |               |           |
|    csin   | |  |   |                   |               |           |
|           | +==o===+===================+===============o========teklabs=+
|           |    |                                       |                |
|           |    |                    pdp phs   grumpy   |   wolfvax      |
|           |    |                     |   |      |      |      |         |
|           | cincy                unc=+===+======+======o======+         |
|           |   |        bio       |                     |                |
|           |   |  (Misc) |        |            (Misc)   |                |
|           |   | sii  reed        |    dukgeri duke34  utzoo             |
|           |   |  |    |          |         |   |       |                |
|      +====+=+=+==+====++======+==++===duke=+===+=======+==+=========+   |
|      |      |    |     |      |   |                       |         |   | u1100s
|    bmd70  ucf-cs ucf   | andiron  |                       |         |   |   |
|                        |          |                       |         |   |   |
|                  red   |          |                       |         |   | pyuxh
|                   |    |          |     zeppo             |         |   |   |
|       psupdp---psuvax  |          |       |               |         |   |   |
|                   |    |          | alice |   whuxlb      | utah-cs |   | houxf
|                allegra |          | |     |     |         |   |     |   |   |
|                     |  |          | |     |     |         |   |  +--chico---+
|                 +===+=mhtsa====research   |   /=+=======harpo=+==+     |    |
|                 |   |  |  |               |  /            |            |    |
|               hocsr |  |  +=+=============+=/           cbosg---+      |    |
|    ucbopt           |  |    |                             |     |   esquire |
|       :             |  |    |                           cbosgd  |           |
|       :             |  |    |                                   |           |
|    ucbcory          |  | eagle==+=====+=====+=====+=====+       |           |
|       :             |  |  |     |     |     |     |     |       |  +-uwvax--+
|       :             |  |  |   mhuxa mhuxh mhuxj mhuxm mhuxv     |  |
|       :             |  |  |                                     |  |
|       :             |  |  |        +----------------------------o--+
|       :             |  |  |        |                            |
|    ucbcad           |  |  |      ihpss    mh135a                |
|       :             |  |  |        |         |                  |
|       :             \--o--o------ihnss----vax135----cornell     |
|       :                |  |        |         |                  |
+=+==ucbvax==========+===+==+=+======+=======+=+========+=========+
  (UCB) :            |        |              |          | (Silicon Valley)
     ucbarpa      cmevax      |              |        menlo70--hao
        :                     |              |        |    |
     ucbonyx                  |              |        |   sri-unix
                              |           ucsfcgl     |
                              |              |        |
Legend:                       |              |      sytek====+========+
-------                       |              |               |        |
- | / \ + = Uucp           sdcsvax=+=======+=+======+     intelqa   zehntel
=           "Bus"                  |       |        |
o           jumps               sdcarl  phonlab  sdcattb
:           Berknet
@           Arpanet

June 1981 map:

                USENET Logical Map
                June 1, 1981
                !-      Uucp links                   olduse.net
                :       Berknet links                    !
                @       Arpanet links                    !
                                                 (wormhole to 2011)
                                  pdp                    !
                    (Misc)         ! (NC)       (Misc)   !
           decvax sii  reed  phs--unc--grumpy  duke34  utzoo  cincy teklabs
              ! !  !    !     !    !             !       !      !      !
              ! +--+----+-----+-+--+-------------+-------+------+      !
              !                 !                                      !
              !               duke                                     !
              !                 !                                      !
              !          +------+---+-----------------------+--------+ !
              !          !          !                       !        ! !
     ucbopt   !  hocsr--mhtsa----research   mh135a        harpo-----chico
        :     !          !  !                  !
     ucbcory  !          ! eagle    ihnss   vax135  (Bell Labs)
  (UCB) :     !          !  !        !         !
     ucbvax--++----------+--+--+-----+--+------+--------+
        :    @                 !        !               ! (Silicon Valley)
     ucbarpa @      (UCSD) sdcsvax      !             menlo70--hao
        :    @     sdcattb-----+        !             !    !
     ucbonyx @                 +-----ucsfcgl        sytek sri-unix
             @     phonlab-----+
         cca-unix           sdcarl

See also: usenet map mashup

Posted Wed Jun 15 05:36:19 2011

Check out the fa.apollo newsgroup, where they're discussing the Xerox Star. Some highlights for me were a post that asked "what are icons?" and complaints about the high traffic on the group, which is up to maybe 10 messages per day, and thoughts about the possibilities of windowing interfaces from a poster who had probaly not yet seen one.

So ahead of its time, and yet also so antique feeling. Indeed seeing this makes me see all icons (which are thankfully rare on my linux system) as the antique things they are.

Oh and also, there's an amazing post where Xerox bows out of discussing the Star, for fear that even answering technical questions could be construed as commercial advertising, which is refreshingly verbotem on oldusenet. :)

Posted Mon Jun 13 19:15:02 2011

So olduse.net has been on the top of Hacker News, and Slashdotted, and bounced around the twittersphere since opening a few days ago.

There have been a quarter million hits to the web. Our lastlogs are bulging with 50 thousand invididual logins to the shell servers to run rtin via the web.

And 80000 individual reads of Usenet posts. Since there are only 784 posts on Usenet so far, each has been read an average of 100 times. That's possibly more than they were read the first time around, 30 years ago!

Thanks for your interest. We're now able to handle the load well, and all but 30 posts have now been successfully imported into the incoming news spool for uucp to find over the next ten years.

Posted Wed Jun 8 00:34:23 2011

For a while after launch, external NNTP was broken. It's fixed now.

Also, IPv6 NNTP is working now.

I've increased the number of users who can use the web viewer at one time, as the server is not noticing the load of 10 to 15.

OTOH, shellinabox has crashed twice. I have added a cron job to restart it for now.

News continues to flow in in realtime.

Thanks for all your interest! --Joey

Posted Sun Jun 5 14:07:13 2011